We’ll agree to disagree on that. I think you’re spouting some false propaganda yourself, more of which anon.
If the post was for a health worker in rural Girona, fair enough. A library worker in Barcelona for example might literally never encounter a Catalan-only speaker from one end of the year to the other, yet be excluded from applying for that job in account of having little or no Catalan. And 45% of the population are in that position.
I’d argue they shouldn’t need to. The region has two official languages, speaking either should suffice so long as it’s practical for the position and local circumstances. To make the speaking of either mandatory in a bilingual region is divisive and ideologically motivated, just as it was the opposite way round under Franco.
And doesn’t the fact that you never speak it after 30 years there prove it isn’t necessary?
Gallego was banned under Franco too (ironically enough as he was from Galicia himself). Galicia has a higher proportion of Gallego speakers than Catalunya has Catalan speakers. That’s been achieved without full immersion in schools. That proves it isn’t necessary and claims it’ll disappear if given equal billing with Spanish are unfounded. Catalan survived almost four decades of being officially banned, it’s not going to disappear because it’s spoken 10-12 hours a week in school instead of 20.
Who’s talking about teaching? You still require a level of proficiency in Catalan for many jobs that most people new to the region wouldn’t have.
Ah this chestnut. It’s addressed in the link I posted earlier. The PISA test only examines reading comprehension, which is the easiest part of learning any language. It’s widely accepted that any true test of language proficiency should also include an oral exam, listening comprehension and writing, with particular regard to spelling. It’s in the latter area that third level institutions have raised particular concern about the level of proficiency among kids graduating from the current Catalan school system and little surprise. The notion that kids studying Spanish three hours per week would have a better level of the language than kids studying it 20 hours plus per week is risible. And it’s showing. I know of employers in Madrid who have received CV’s and job applications from Catalans (in Spanish) which demonstrated such poor command of the language with grammatical deficiencies and spelling errors that they literally couldn’t be considered for what were not highly skilled jobs by any means. A work colleague of mine from Galicia had to proof read any important email sent by her Catalan boss in a previous job. That’s only going to become more widespread so long as this policy persists. Spanish is in no danger of dying out as a spoken language in Catalunya but its level of written proficiency is in danger of becoming too poor for the satisfaction of many employers.
I’ve already addressed that disingenuous claim. And perhaps the desire to keep the region genuinely bilingual is so that it doesn’t become an economic backwater over the coming decades?
I’m not denying the PP has an agenda here. In this case, I would say he’s being disingenuous in deliberately failing to contextualize his remarks, rather than outright lying. It is the case that Spanish isn’t taught at pre-school level in many areas of Catalunya. And some of the images tweeted by Independence supporters on October 1st definitely were knowingly faked. This one purported to be a kid split open by the Guardia Civil on that day. It was tweeted with a caption reading ‘Every democrat should be embarrassed by this image’.
Indeed they should, as it turned out to be 5 years old and the injury had been inflicted by the Mossos (Catalunya’s own regional police). It wasn’t the only instance of this deception. A shot of an elderly lady also bleeding from the forehead was later found to be the result of a fall down the stairs. A Catalan flag magically appeared in a photo of Guardia Civil restraining striking miners three months earlier. Then you had this beaut, claiming to have had five fingers broken one by one and being sexually molested by police, only to change her story after neighbours noted here using her supposedly mutilated hand the next day.
Which isn’t to say there was no violence from the Guardia Civil that day but certainly Catalan separatists were guilty of manipulating public opinion with the propagation of fake news.
Yes, I’ve witnessed several instances of Catalans demonstrating levels of disapproval with individual Spaniards ranging from what I might call rudeness or passive aggressive behaviour (typically speaking to people they know don’t speak Catalan in Catalan, when they’re well capable of speaking Spanish) through to outright hostility. And the younger they are, the more prone they are to such behaviour from my experience.
I suspect it’s more a case of what Catalans aren’t taught in school than what they are that’s doing the damage here. Listening to these kids, you’d swear Catalunya fought Franco alone and that he had the support of everyone in Spain. Madrid was the very last city to fall to the Nationalists (long after Catalans had given up after fatally weakening themselves through infighting), because Franco’s famed ‘fifth column’ of Nationalist sympathisers in the capital simply didn’t exist, or at least not in sufficient numbers to rise up against the Republicans there. Perhaps that historical reality needs to be factored into the Catalan psyche.
And journalists based in Barcelona have reported harassment for daring to print anything critical of the independence movement.
Not gonna lie, the optics of that are shocking. I know enough of Spain to know that there is a very nasty element among those opposing Catalan independence, just as there is among those supporting it. As I said earlier, they make for uncomfortable bedfellows in this situation on which everybody with any kind of stake in Spain has been forced to take sides.
As to why Catalans should want to stay in Spain, I agree the Government are making a dog’s dinner of encouraging them to stay. In these instances I suppose you need to appeal to hearts and minds. There’s little point trying to convince the radicals, but up until recently the majority of Catalans could live with being both Catalan and Spanish. Many still do. The policy should be to try get them back onside and isolate the separatists on the economic argument, not that beating people in the street is going to achieve that. Christ knows what happens from here.