Producing quality forwards is not easy but I don't think we are doing too badly. It's holding onto them when they become seniors is where we are falling down. In the last 10 years Danny Sutcliffe, Cormac Costello Ciaran Kilkenny, Emmett O Conghaile, Colm Cronim, Sean Treacy, Chris Bennett, Donal Burke, David Treacy, and Mark Schutte have come through . There is the makings of a serious starting 6 and a few good subs in that lot. The fact a lot of these lads are unavailable for varying reasons is hardly the systems fault.