Get It Off Your Chest


#4765

There isn’t a hope in hell that any concession would be made around any DUP only arrangement - none. Any such arrangement would be in contravention to international law. It can not and will not happen.

That said the stakes here are getting very serious. To date I am very satisfied with the robust (EU) support for the backstop and the GFA and don’t see that changing. Any resiling or weakening from that position could have massive repercussions for the whole EU project.

The one unfortunate element in the whole situation is the lack of unconditional support from the US thanks to the incumbency of the biggest moron on the planet.


#4766

I’m happy with the EU response too. Up to a point. I’m still not entirely 100% certain that when push comes to shove & a hard Brexit is actually going to happen (as opposed to in a few months time,) little old Ireland won’t get thrown under the bus to placate a European super power that wants to take it’s ball and go home.


#4767

It’s not against international law, it may contravene an agreement lodged with the UN hence Mays pondering how she can change the GFA. I didn’t realise until today that only two section of the GFA are lodged with the UN.


#4768

I’m.just glad Inda is gone, he would have rolled over for May a long time ago. The EU really have shown to be men of there word in this.


#4769

Yes, they have. Up to now. The signs are good that they will continue to do the right thing & do the right thing by Ireland. However, history has shown that we can’t always take that for granted.


#4770

Nah that’s just nonsense and a bit beneath someone who seems to know his stuff.


#4771

No he was appoling in his dealings in the bail out, he continually missed open goals and assumed cosying up by its self gets results. Have a read of
Eoghan Harris the weekend, he was close to Kenny and I suspect views are similar on this topic like they did many others.


#4772

Enda wouldn’t have the stomach for a scrap like this. Leo & Coveney do & it makes a big difference. Coveney in particular has been playing a blinder imo, even if he is a langer.


#4773

If anyone thinks that this would be a straight auld deal and handshake between Inda and Theresa they are either not really informed, mischievous or AN Other.


#4774

It probably a generational thing, celtic cubs were brought up believing in themselves with more confidence then previous generation when dealing with others. It’s a positive and a negative


#4775

Nah. I think it’s more a personality thing. There were plenty of dirty street fighters around in Enda’s day and before it. He was just never one of them.


#4776

No one made any such point, I don’t believe he would have the courage to hold his position for so long and a fudge on the backstop would have happened a long time ago.


#4777

But the position has the full backing of the EU and would have been really put in place by negotiators - the position would be as is with EK - maybe not if it was Donald Trump though. If anyone thinks Kenny couldn’t street fight they should look at that leadership challenge.


#4778

The real story of the backstop is that the UK negotiating teams from Day 1 have been incompetent. The Irish realised the significance of the backstop immediately it was signed off back in late 2017. Look at the post agreement statements. It was end game from an Irish perspective.

But it has taken the UK a lot lot longer to realise it’s significance …

#dumbasfuck


#4779

As you said we outmanouvered them

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-12-14/how-ireland-outmaneuvered-britain-on-brexit


#4781

Winning a scrap in your own party is one thing. Doing it on the international stage is something else entirely. There’s been many a political leader who became a cropper when they got a plane & found themselves outmatched by a shower more conniving, more experienced & much more ruthless than they are.


#4782

It seems May has flipfloped on amending the GFA. It was good to see this presume coming from our diaspora.


#4784

Here is the artical I refered to, I suspect many of that generation have a similar view. Mícheál Martin’s has said similar previously what criticising the government.


#4785

People just love to poke fun at Kenny…how he is even entering conversation here is amazing. He was a poor operator on front of camera but speaking to people in the know he was bloody ruthless off stage…


#4786

If Eoghan Harris had his way the Union Jack would be flying over Leinster House. A sympathetic unionist of ever there was one.