Fair play TallaghtDub - let's discuss ............ insomnia aside!
Maybe I'm not an old dinosaur but I'm not against the GAA being on Sky or any other channel. Some of the arguments against it are ridiculous though.
You say people can't watch their own county team without paying for the privilege. Should we get into Croke Park for free? I saw a picture of a protest outside a Sky game during the year and the turnstiles in the background. The irony was completely lost on them.
No offence but you are now comparing two absolutely and ridiculously different things here.
People were giving up their time to volunteer for years and years before they got to watch any matches on TV. It's not so long ago that only the semi-finals and finals were the only games on TV so there isn't a link between the two that you are trying to create now.
Again - lost here - I am not creating any link and don't understand your point
After coaching down the academy or at whatever level it is people can watch their national sport. There may be one game a week on Sky but there are other games on RTE the same weekend so its a complete fallacy to say people can't watch their national sport.
And as for Irish jobs, Sky Ireland employ around 900 people in Ireland.
Maybe I should have said can't watch all their national sport - but the principle holds. Do you not see a danger here that the better (more lucrative games) will become pay per view over time once the acceptance has been gained? And RTE could end up with the Div 4 type games while pay per view gets the rest .. that is the reality behind the concept.
You do raise an interesting point describing TV3 as free to air for all GAA members. A lot of the people that continually raise objections to Sky on twitter, facebook or county councils as we have seen this year are not even members of the GAA. They may come from a GAA background and may go to the big games in the summer but they do not pay an annual membership to their club. These people feel the games belong to them yet refuse to pay their way. They essentially want something for nothing and feel entitled to it. I'm not accusing you of this but I've seen it my own circle of friends.
Is the GAA an amateur organisation? Simple question.
As an aside TV3 is not widely available in the north.
Funniest of all is that no one mentions Setanta or Eir now but maybe that's because of the it's only league mentality.
Its not pay per view. PPV is the boxing tonight which I didn't buy although I was regretting that while sitting through the Ray Darcy show.
If I pay a subscription to receive a channel (though I accept that RTE requires a licence fee but they are the 'national broadcaster') then that is absolutely pay per view.
I wouldn't describe my acceptance of GAA on subscription tv as a shrug shoulders acceptance. I think its well thought out. I think the GAA should be maximising the commercial revenue it gets from its own games. Remember these broadcasters aren't doing it for the love of the game.
Of course they're not !!! But who is paying for their love of the game - You and me are - do you not see that!!!
They're in it to make money and it's only right and fair that the lions share of what the broadcasters can make goes to the GAA which can then be reinvested in social capital in communities across Ireland.
Agree - but define social capital here for me please. If GAA volunteers coach/volunteer a few hours every week (incalculable social capital) and then their own organisation seeks to make money on the back of these volunteers by visiting TV subscriptions on them - is that right and fair??
Lastly. Insomnia is a ■■■■ [Agreed]