Charles, Walter was plucked from the relative obscurity of Tullogher-Rosbercon, a junior hurling club in Kilkenny. He got 1.1 in an All Ireland final and has scored practically nothing since. The goal, plundered against the Deise doesn't change the stats much. You need to sit down and have a nice cup of tea. The thread was not about Dublin at all, by the way. I made a point, which I stand over, that Kilkenny are 7 or more players off an All Ireland winning team.